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Reticula

You might want to check out what Brene Brown has to say about the difference between guilt and shame. Her Ted talks are fabulous. So is her book. She even has a blog.

In a nutshell, she says guilt is OK because it's a feeling that will cause you to change your behavior.

Shame is just beating up on yourself though, and that's not OK. I think you're describing shame. And it's a very good thing to give up for Lent and all time. And I totally relate to your guilt, btw.

Summer

You don't have to justify your existence. I think a habit that creeps in with motherhood is this idea that we have to fit an imaginary role in order to warrant a place at the table of humanity. Not so. Anyway, that's what I noticed in myself when my daughter was tiny. External circumstances were not entirely great, and my husband was depressed and I was vulnerable to anxiety and depression as well. It's an easy habit to develop with so many stressors, but coming out of depression over the autumn has helped me see that I was doing something similar, feeling absolutely inadequate all the time, feeling guilty for no reason. I'm sure our circumstances and feelings are unique, but what you said reminded me of my experience.

I love the way you describe fighting off that persistent feeling of guilt. You sound very much like one of the saints. They called the niggling thoughts that make you feel bad about yourself "logismoi" {Low-giz-me} Habits or tendencies that promote and feed off those cruel thoughts are called passions. They describe wrestling against the passions exactly as you have described fighting guilty feelings. I know people will distinguish between guilt and shame and remorse, but I think guilt works as a description here. That's because if you're fighting a passion, you are fighting a false notion of who you are, a distorted image, and you feel guilty when you don't look like that image. It doesn't feel like shame, as though others don't/won't like you, but like you have done something wrong. It's the false image that's the problem, though. We have to deal with this problem in our house, too, from time to time, and guilt can be so subtle and hard to spot!

Thank you for sharing your experience. I found it really thought provoking and helpful.

M Light

Reticula: Thank you. I definitely need to look into those talks.

Summer: I'm glad you've been coming out of depression. I found that I was possibly the hardest on myself when I had little kids because everything seemed to rest on me and I wanted so much to do well by them. Not that I don't want to do things well with my kids now, but most things are totally out of my hands at this point with the older two.

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